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c/orforglipron·submitted 3 months ago by u/marit_sandvik

why does nobody talk about non-peptide

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Genuine question, and the title is the question: why does nobody talk about non-peptide. The no-timing-restriction thing is the part I would care about most in practice, and it barely gets mentioned here. Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.…

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd10 points·2 months ago

What is actually known, and what is being assumed.

Known: it is a small-molecule GLP-1 receptor agonist, dosed daily, with clinical programmes reporting in both obesity and type 2 diabetes. Its tolerability profile broadly resembles the class in the data published so far.

Assumed, frequently and confidently: that milligram comparisons with injectables mean something, that adherence is straightforwardly better because it is a tablet, that peptide purity discussions transfer to it. None of those hold. And nothing containing this compound is approved anywhere, which makes research-use-only material exactly that — not approved for human use.

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u/cloudy_vial_carol3 points·2 months ago

Agreed that phase 3 is where the comparison becomes fair. Everything before it is inference.

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u/whois_wanda1 point·2 months ago

Agreed that phase 3 is where the comparison becomes fair.

Agreed, and it is why the oral peptide comparison keeps misleading people.

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u/quiet_moderatormod3 points·2 months ago

Right, and comparing milligrams between a small molecule and a peptide is meaningless in either direction.

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u/marit_sandvikOP0 points·2 months ago

Correcting myself: that was a phase 2 readout and I described it as phase 3.

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