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[Results] 79 weeks, 21kg, and non-peptide was the hard part

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79 weeks, 21kg, and non-peptide was the hard part, and the part I actually want to talk about is at the bottom.

Numbers, in the order they matter: 79 weeks and 21kg.

Analytically this is a small-molecule identity and purity problem, not a peptide one. The methods, the impurity classes and the reference standards are all different.

Milligram comparisons across molecule classes are meaningless. Potency is a property of the molecule at its receptor, not of the number on the label.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

426 up / 90 down83% upvoted19 commentsid mpuch14 Jul 2026

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u/piotr_bruun52 points·25 days ago

Oral semaglutide is a peptide co-formulated with an absorption enhancer and carries food and water timing requirements. A small molecule does not have that constraint, which is the practical distinction.

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u/salma_almeida43 points·24 days ago

Oral semaglutide is a peptide co-formulated with an absorption enhancer and carries food and water timing requirements.

piotr_bruun is right that milligram comparisons across classes tell you nothing.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD40 points·25 days ago

Corrected a cross-class dose comparison in the title. The body is untouched.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts22 points·24 days ago·edited

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

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[deleted]9 points·24 days ago

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u/preservative_free_p-28 points·24 days ago

ATTAIN and ACHIEVE are the programmes to keep straight

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u/sofia_petrescu13 points·24 days ago

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

This is the fact the whole board hangs on. Small molecule, not peptide.

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u/hana_lehtinen0 points·24 days ago

Agreed that phase 3 is where the comparison becomes fair. Everything before it is inference.

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u/enzo_ferrari17 points·24 days ago

the boards keep comparing it to injectables at matched doses, which is meaningless

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u/phase_two_pete10 points·24 days ago

the tolerability profile reads broadly similar to the class

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u/honest_syringe_maybeOP8 points·24 days ago

Daily rather than weekly sounds trivial until you think about what a missed dose means in each case.

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u/honest_syringe_maybeOP6 points·24 days ago

daily dosing changes adherence in both directions

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u/preservative_free_p1 point·24 days ago

small molecule, not a peptide, and that changes everything about it

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u/the_poster_in_question_20262 points·24 days ago

oral and non-peptide is the whole engineering story

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u/hedda_ekstrom1 point·23 days ago

Cosigning on daily dosing. It changes the exposure profile and it changes adherence, in both directions.

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u/bruno_dumitru3 points·24 days ago

do not assume reconstitution intuitions apply, there is nothing to reconstitute

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u/emeka_delgado5 points·24 days ago·edited

Correction: that is the oral peptide product, which is a different thing entirely. This one is a small molecule.

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u/enzo_ferrari37 points·25 days ago

Same view. The analytical problem is different enough that the usual purity discussions here do not transfer cleanly.

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