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c/newbiequestions·posted 2 years ago by u/dario_bakken

the basics question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

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the basics question that gets asked weekly, answered properly, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

Appetite change and weight change are different measurements on different timescales. The first is usually noticed first and the second lags it.

Concentration is mass over volume, and a U-100 syringe reads 100 units per millilitre. Those two facts are the whole of the arithmetic this board keeps explaining.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. That is a plain statement of regulatory fact and it belongs in every beginner thread.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim263 points·2 years ago

Bacteriostatic water contains a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into a vial reasonable. Sterile water does not, and the two are not interchangeable for that purpose.

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u/nayeli_iyer69 points·2 years ago

week two with nothing happening is normal

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u/plain_titration19 points·2 years ago·edited

Week 18 for me was completely flat and I was convinced something was wrong. It was not. Month two was where everything happened.

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u/ismael_chukwu12 points·2 years ago

Week 18 for me was completely flat and I was convinced something was wrong.

This is the answer. Everything else in the thread is elaboration on it.

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u/due_diligence_dee193 points·2 years ago

appetite change usually shows up before the scale does

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u/micro_bump_mick86 points·2 years ago

Titration is a tolerance ladder. Each step exists so the gastrointestinal effects settle before the next increase, which is why the intervals are what they are.

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u/old_account_202366 points·2 years ago

pens and vials are the same molecule with different logistics

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u/piotr_grimaldi50 points·2 years ago

Nothing on this board is medical advice, and the people answering you — including me — are members with spreadsheets rather than clinicians.

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u/nayeli_iyer20 points·2 years ago

Push back on the advice above: nobody here can tell a member what dose to take, however confidently it is phrased.

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u/dario_bakkenOP12 points·2 years ago

My first question here was genuinely basic and it now shows up in search for other people asking it.

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u/dario_bakkenOP7 points·2 years ago·edited

The injection was scarier in my head than in reality. It took about ten seconds and I felt slightly silly afterwards.

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u/intent_to_treat118 points·2 years ago

Gently disagree with the framing — nothing has gone wrong. Week 2 looking flat is the ordinary experience.

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u/ffmi_watcher23 points·2 years ago

Did you write the concentration on the vial?

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u/ines_ekstrom131 points·2 years ago

the first month is a tolerance check, not a results phase

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u/ferran_laurent92 points·2 years ago

the starting dose is not meant to be the dose that works

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u/dario_bakkenOP95 points·2 years ago

That is area percent from a certificate, not the amount of peptide in the vial. Two different numbers and a very common mix-up.

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u/dario_bakken39 points·2 years ago

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on

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u/asks_dumb_questionsMOD66 points·2 years ago

Removed the specific dose recommendation. Describe what you did; do not tell a new member what to take.

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u/sofia_petrescu49 points·2 years ago

Same. The injection was the thing I was most nervous about and the thing that turned out to matter least.

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u/renzo_yildiz41 points·2 years ago

read the wiki first, then ask anyway

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u/britt_abubakar68 points·2 years ago·edited

Correction: the starting dose is a tolerance step rather than a treatment dose. The distinction is the answer to the question above.

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u/plain_titration-19 points·2 years ago

Has the appetite changed, even if the scale has not?

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u/ismael_chukwu1 point·2 years ago

no question is too basic here, that is the entire point of the board

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u/erez_perrin1 point·2 years ago

the injection is easier than you are imagining

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u/nordic_pricing1 point·2 years ago

Small correction, said kindly: those are two different products with similar names, and the difference matters for a multi-draw vial.

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u/nightowl_injector1 point·2 years ago

bacteriostatic water has a preservative, sterile water does not

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u/farid_jansen1 point·2 years ago

That comparison is between two different products at two different concentrations, which is where the confusion is coming from.

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u/ffmi_watcher1 point·2 years ago

A certificate of analysis is a document describing one batch: what was tested, by what method, and what the result was. Its value depends entirely on whether it names the batch and the method.

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u/ruben_almeida1 point·2 years ago

titration means going slow on the way up

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