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c/meta·posted 8 months ago by u/farid_jansen

the wiki thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

Meta Cold Box ×4 Long Haul ×2

The title is the argument: the wiki thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. Here is the rest of it.

Edited a wiki page for the first time and nothing bad happened, which is apparently the point.

Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

5,755 up / 4,250 down58% upvoted51 commentsid a81w172 Nov 2025

51 comments

27 in this archive, depth 5

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/rekha_mwangi195 points·8 months ago

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

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u/marisol_frisk51 points·8 months ago

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

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u/old_account_202314 points·8 months ago·edited

Yes — a proposal with concrete wording gets discussed. A complaint about the rules in general does not.

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u/farid_jansenOP8 points·8 months ago·edited

the disclosure is boring because it has to be

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u/viktor_laurent-30 points·8 months ago

sponsor disclosure is on the about page in full

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u/rina_ferreira98 points·8 months ago·edited

I would not archive earlier. The old threads are the most-searched thing on the site.

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u/injection_site_iris74 points·8 months ago

Cosigning on the no-links rule. It is the only reason the pricing threads are trustworthy.

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u/rasmus_kuipers43 points·8 months ago

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

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u/arto_fonseca34 points·8 months ago

That is the controversial ordering, not the hot one. Different formula, different behaviour.

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u/divya_bakken8 points·8 months ago

Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.

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u/emil_wojcik26 points·8 months ago

Disagree with loosening that. The evidence rule is why a supplier report here means something.

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u/farid_jansenOP18 points·8 months ago

Proposed a rule change here with actual wording and it was adopted. That is the process working and it is not fast.

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u/emeka_chowdhury5 points·8 months ago

Complained about a rule without proposing anything and was politely pointed at this page. Fair.

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u/ahmed_cardoso6 points·8 months ago

the wiki is editable by anybody with standing on the site

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u/dizzy_on_standing3 points·8 months ago·edited

modmail first, always, and the thread second

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u/hub_opsMOD28 points·8 months ago

Adopted with an amendment, announced with the reasoning. Thank you for writing actual text.

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u/divya_bakken13 points·8 months ago·edited

Same view — strict evidence rules make this board slower and make the archive worth reading in three years.

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u/enzo_danquah12 points·8 months ago

Agreed. Publishing the ranking formula is the difference between a feed and a black box, and it costs nothing to do.

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u/quiet_moderatormod15 points·8 months ago

nobody here is paid, including the moderators

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u/farid_jansenOP8 points·8 months ago

What is the concrete wording you would replace it with?

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u/naomi_erdogan5 points·8 months ago

Which rule specifically, and which part of it?

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u/emil_wojcik2 points·8 months ago

a rule you cannot inspect is just a preference

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u/milos_trevino2 points·8 months ago

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

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u/sterile_field_steph11 points·8 months ago

Have you taken this to modmail first?

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u/lina_ndiaye9 points·8 months ago

no referral links, no affiliate links, not once

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u/sterile_field_steph8 points·8 months ago

rule-change proposals need a concrete wording, not a complaint

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u/quiet_moderatormod3 points·8 months ago

this place sells nothing and takes nothing from any supplier

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