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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/elise_ramos

[Discussion] below spec is doing more work than we give it credit for

Discussion Receipts ×8 Well Actually ×3

below spec is doing more work than we give it credit for. Change my mind, genuinely — I have no stake in being right about this.

First result I ever posted here got asked for the batch number and the claim. Fair, and my posts have been better ever since.

Split one vial between PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate. The two numbers were within half a point of each other and I stopped worrying about which lab to trust.

Inter-lab variance on this assay runs roughly a point either way, driven mostly by gradient and integration. Two results inside that band agree; they do not disagree quietly.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/arne_restrepo377 points·1 year ago·edited

The template is vendor, compound, batch, service, claim, result, and who paid. Every one of those fields exists because a result missing it has been argued about here before.

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u/rina_sobczak179 points·1 year ago

Date of analysis anchors the result to a manufacturing period. A two-year-old result is evidence about two years ago and should be read that way.

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u/elise_ramosOP546 points·1 year ago

Have now spent more on testing than on some of the orders. No regrets — the log is the reason I can buy without agonising.

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u/rina_bergstrom443 points·1 year ago

That service reports area percent by default. Worth stating, since the thread has been comparing it to a mass figure.

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u/meera_sandvik143 points·1 year ago

area percent unless the report says otherwise

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u/fatima_wojcik221 points·1 year ago·edited

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

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u/matias_falk-29 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis?

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u/elise_ramosOP1 point·1 year ago

Small fix — same supplier, different lot. The two rows in the log are not the same batch.

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u/elise_ramosOP1 point·1 year ago

Tested three lots over a year rather than three vials from one lot. Cost the same and told me something completely different.

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u/nayeli_iyer1 point·1 year ago

Sent a vial in specifically to check a supplier’s claim after a good experience. It matched. Boring result, worth logging.

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u/janoshik_junkieindependent tester117 points·1 year ago

Kept every report as a PDF with the batch in the filename. Two years in, it is the most useful folder I own.

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u/jonas_cardoso65 points·1 year ago

QSC BPC, batch matched the paperwork, PeptideMeter came back 98.8% against a claimed 98.0%. Paid for it myself, posting it because the log is only worth anything if people do.

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u/piotr_nascimento42 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the claimed figure, and the measured one is the higher of the two in your own screenshot.

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u/hedda_aguirre35 points·1 year ago·edited

Which service, and did you pay for it yourself?

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro15 points·1 year ago

If the report gives a mass spectrum as well as UV purity, say so. Identity and relative quantity are separate claims and the log tracks both.

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u/noor_cardoso63 points·1 year ago

split a vial across two services once and you will never argue about ground truth again

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u/santiago_rasmussen21 points·1 year ago

vendor, compound, batch, service, result — that is the template

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u/ewan_marchand16 points·1 year ago

That reading assumes area percent and net peptide content are the same number. They are not, and the report says which it is.

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u/nadia_trevino5 points·1 year ago

if you are going to test, test the thing you actually received

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u/medutest_mel2 points·1 year ago

say whether you paid for it yourself

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u/priya_weiss12 points·1 year ago

Is that the same lot as the one in the thread from last month?

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u/runa_wikstrom73 points·1 year ago

A series across separate lots estimates a process. Repeat tests on one lot estimate the measurement. Both are useful and they answer different questions.

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u/rina_bergstrom91 points·1 year ago

net peptide content if the report gives it, and say which you are quoting

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u/plateau_patrol0 points·1 year ago

What was the claim on the certificate you are comparing against?

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