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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/scam_taxonomy

do test results actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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Question in the title, detail here: do test results actually matter or is it forum lore at this point.

Have now spent more on testing than on some of the orders. No regrets — the log is the reason I can buy without agonising.

What a result posted here is actually worth, and how to make yours worth more.

A single figure with no batch identifier is about a vial nobody can locate. Add the batch and it becomes about a lot. Add the claimed figure from the certificate and it becomes a comparison. Add the service and the date and it becomes reproducible. Say that you paid for it yourself and it becomes independent.

Five extra fields, thirty seconds of typing, and the difference between a comment and a row in the log that will still be useful in three years.

Kept every report as a PDF with the batch in the filename. Two years in, it is the most useful folder I own.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/peptidemeter_patMOD711 points·1 year ago

Merged with the other thread on the same batch so the results sit together.

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts0 points·1 year ago

Did the vial lot match the paperwork lot?

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u/peptidemeter_pat1 point·1 year ago

Correction: that is the claimed figure, and the measured one is the higher of the two in your own screenshot.

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts1 point·1 year ago

Which service, and did you pay for it yourself?

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u/clara_weiss530 points·1 year ago

split a vial across two services once and you will never argue about ground truth again

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u/ismael_eriksen601 points·1 year ago

split a vial across two services once and you will never argue about ground truth again

clara_weiss is right that the band matters more than the peak. Consistency across lots is the finding.

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u/coring_the_stopper378 points·1 year ago

Area percent and net peptide content are different measurements and most reports give one. Quote which, or the comparison downstream is meaningless.

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u/ewan_marchand422 points·1 year ago

Small fix — same supplier, different lot. The two rows in the log are not the same batch.

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u/whois_wanda362 points·1 year ago

net peptide content if the report gives it, and say which you are quoting

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u/thyroid_tangent273 points·1 year ago

net peptide content if the report gives it, and say which you are quoting

Disagreeing with this line: that gap is ordinary variance, not a contradiction between the lab and the certificate.

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u/throwaway_44b1126 points·1 year ago

the trend across lots is worth more than any single figure

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u/elise_ramos509 points·1 year ago

vendor, compound, batch, service, result — that is the template

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u/milan_villalobos261 points·1 year ago

Yes. Two services on the same batch is the strongest thing an individual member can produce, and it is not expensive.

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u/ewan_marchand73 points·1 year ago

Fourth lot from the same supplier in the log now and the band has been tight the whole way. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/crp_curious55 points·1 year ago

Fourth lot from the same supplier in the log now and the band has been tight the whole way.

Agreed — and two services on one batch is the strongest thing any of us can produce individually.

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u/coring_the_stopper239 points·1 year ago

How many separate lots does your series cover?

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u/mateusz_mensah82 points·1 year ago

How many separate lots does your series cover?

Adding the boring but useful bit: say whether you paid for it. It is the basis of the whole log.

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u/enzo_fonseca346 points·1 year ago

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

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u/refund_ledger146 points·1 year ago

That reading assumes area percent and net peptide content are the same number. They are not, and the report says which it is.

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u/ismael_eriksen-36 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis?

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts1 point·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis?

This is why the template has a batch field. Without it the result is about a vial nobody can identify.

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u/jarno_cabrera1 point·1 year ago

Right, and a point or two between services is ordinary. It is agreement, and every month somebody posts it as a scandal.

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u/kenji_kimani1 point·1 year ago

if you are going to test, test the thing you actually received

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u/asks_dumb_questions74 points·1 year ago

Agreed — the template exists because a result without the batch and the claim is unanchored.

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u/tuva_kirchner108 points·1 year ago

the log is cumulative, that is the whole value of it

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u/kavya_radich48 points·1 year ago

area percent unless the report says otherwise

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u/boots_or_bust29 points·1 year ago

I would not post that as a finding. It is a single result and the template asks you to say so.

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u/medutest_mel10 points·1 year ago

GL Biochem came back 99.6% on a claimed 99.0%, which is agreement not a discrepancy

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u/priya_ogunleye12 points·1 year ago

date of analysis matters as much as the number

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