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c/insurancefights·submitted 2 years ago by u/sanne_novak

[Discussion] we are measuring external review at the wrong time and calling it noise

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The title is the argument: we are measuring external review at the wrong time and calling it noise. Here is the rest of it. Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year. A criterion that blocked you in one year may not exist in the next, so a denial is worth retesting after the turnover. A peer-to-peer…

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u/marta_marchand45 points·2 years ago

Right, and keeping every date and reference number turns a frustrating process into an auditable one.

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u/ireland_drugs_pay19 points·2 years ago

the second-level appeal is where things actually turn

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes11 points·2 years ago

Yes — quoting their own policy bulletin back at them is far more effective than arguing in general terms.

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u/neha_erdogan8 points·2 years ago

external review exists and almost nobody uses it

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u/ahmed_abubakar12 points·2 years ago

I would not skip the peer-to-peer. It is often the fastest route and it costs a phone call.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes8 points·2 years ago

That advice is jurisdiction-specific and this board spans several. Say where you are.

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u/sanne_novakOP0 points·2 years ago

Employer plan or individual plan?

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u/plain_titration_202419 points·2 years ago

External review, which is the most underused mechanism discussed on this board.

Internal appeals are decided by the plan. External review sends the determination to an independent body. Where it applies its decision binds the plan, and the deadlines to request it are short and strictly enforced.

The two things that trip people up: not knowing it exists, and exhausting the internal levels so slowly that the external window closes. Ask on the first denial what the external route is and what the deadline will be. Availability and rules vary by jurisdiction and plan type, so say where you are when you ask here.

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u/niels_salinas16 points·2 years ago

Correction: that is a formulary exclusion, not a prior authorisation denial. Different form, different route, different deadline.

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u/ireland_drugs_pay9 points·2 years ago

deadlines run from the letter date, not from when you opened it

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u/marta_dziedzic13 points·2 years ago

employer plans and individual plans are different fights

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