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c/insurancefights·posted 9 months ago by u/adaeze_weiss

[Question] how do you actually verify copay

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Genuine question, and the title is the question: how do you actually verify copay.

Spent six weeks arguing in general terms and got nowhere. Two paragraphs quoting their own criteria turned it around in eleven days.

Asked for the policy bulletin by number and wrote the appeal against its criteria line by line. Approved on the second level after a flat first-level denial.

Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year. A criterion that blocked you in one year may not exist in the next, so a denial is worth retesting after the turnover.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/jarno_adeyemi292 points·9 months ago

A denial letter is required to state a reason and to reference the criterion applied. That reference is the handle: request the clinical policy document by its identifier and answer it point by point.

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u/milos_vestergaard137 points·9 months ago

Push back: your plan is an employer plan, which changes both the appeal path and who the regulator is.

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u/emeka_delgado45 points·9 months ago

Push back: your plan is an employer plan, which changes both the appeal path and who the regulator is.

Adding the underused one — external review. Independent, binding where it applies, and hardly anybody gets that far.

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u/liv_vukovic170 points·9 months ago

Employer-sponsored plans may be regulated differently from individually purchased ones, which changes both the appeal route and which regulator hears a complaint.

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u/niels_salinas94 points·9 months ago

Not convinced. That is a formulary exclusion rather than a prior authorisation denial, and the route to challenge it is different.

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u/adaeze_weissOP124 points·9 months ago

the denial letter names the criterion, start there

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[deleted]48 points·9 months ago

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u/kaia_cabrera34 points·9 months ago

That criterion is from the previous plan year. The current bulletin has different wording.

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u/milan_wikstrom28 points·9 months ago·edited

Same view. The second-level appeal is where mine turned, after a first-level denial that looked final.

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u/adaeze_weiss103 points·9 months ago

Small fix — external review is independent of the plan. The second-level internal appeal is not.

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u/runa_wikstrom148 points·9 months ago·edited

What is the appeal deadline on the letter?

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u/step_therapy_s106 points·9 months ago

employer plans and individual plans are different fights

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u/emeka_delgado88 points·9 months ago

This. Step therapy is a paperwork requirement and it is beaten with documentation, not persuasion.

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u/hedda_aguirre100 points·9 months ago

That advice is jurisdiction-specific and this board spans several. Say where you are.

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u/liv_kuipers0 points·9 months ago

That advice is jurisdiction-specific and this board spans several.

hedda_aguirre is right that this is documentation rather than persuasion. It took me a year to accept that.

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u/valeria_grimaldi1 point·9 months ago

What exactly does the denial letter give as the reason?

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u/nnt_nate1 point·9 months ago

the second-level appeal is where things actually turn

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u/peak_area_peteanalytical1 point·9 months ago

Disagree with the tone strategy. Anger has never moved a determination; matching the criterion has.

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