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c/insurancefights·posted 1 year ago by u/amylin_amy

[Question] copay — what am I missing here

Question Well Actually ×1

copay — what am I missing here. If this has been answered properly somewhere, link me and I will delete.

A peer-to-peer conversation puts the prescribing clinician in front of a reviewing clinician. It bypasses the correspondence cycle entirely and is often the fastest available route.

Appeal deadlines run from the date on the determination letter. They are strict, they are short, and a missed deadline usually forfeits that level entirely.

Internal appeals are decided by the plan. External review is decided by an independent body and, where it applies, its determination is binding. They are separate mechanisms and the second is chronically underused.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/ferritin_low78 points·1 year ago

Employer-sponsored plans may be regulated differently from individually purchased ones, which changes both the appeal route and which regulator hears a complaint.

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u/marta_marchand38 points·1 year ago

Step therapy requires documented trial of preferred alternatives. It is not an argument to be won on merits; it is a record to be produced, and the record is what the appeal must contain.

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u/saskia_lokken92 points·1 year ago·edited

A denial letter is required to state a reason and to reference the criterion applied. That reference is the handle: request the clinical policy document by its identifier and answer it point by point.

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u/maren_sorensen74 points·1 year ago

a peer-to-peer call is often faster than a written appeal

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u/adaeze_weiss43 points·1 year ago

Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year. A criterion that blocked you in one year may not exist in the next, so a denial is worth retesting after the turnover.

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u/janoshik_junkieindependent tester11 points·1 year ago

Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year.

Disagreeing with this line: the deadline runs from the letter date and treating it otherwise is expensive.

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u/hugo_pires0 points·1 year ago

Disagreeing with this line: the deadline runs from the letter date and treating it otherwise is expensive.

janoshik_junkie is right that this is documentation rather than persuasion. It took me a year to accept that.

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u/kian_ferreira22 points·1 year ago

ask for the denial reason in writing, always

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u/amira_dumitru6 points·1 year ago

prior authorisation criteria change every plan year

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u/neha_rahimi4 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. That is a formulary exclusion rather than a prior authorisation denial, and the route to challenge it is different.

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u/adaeze_weiss8 points·1 year ago

the denial letter names the criterion, start there

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u/purity_pedantanalytical10 points·1 year ago

deadlines run from the letter date, not from when you opened it

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u/maren_ibarra22 points·1 year ago

That advice is jurisdiction-specific and this board spans several. Say where you are.

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u/ahmed_abubakar11 points·1 year ago

a template letter that quotes their own criteria back is the strongest one

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u/elin_lindqvist9 points·1 year ago

Yes — quoting their own policy bulletin back at them is far more effective than arguing in general terms.

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u/camila_vasquez9 points·1 year ago·edited

Disagree with the tone strategy. Anger has never moved a determination; matching the criterion has.

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u/saskia_rahimi6 points·1 year ago

What exactly does the denial letter give as the reason?

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u/cato_achebe0 points·1 year ago

What is the appeal deadline on the letter?

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