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c/glp1canada·posted 1 year ago by u/first_pen_fear

the Netherlands: private plan, and what it actually costs here

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the Netherlands: private plan, and what it actually costs here. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

Read the special authorization criteria and wrote the application against them line by line. Approved first time after a previous refusal.

Moved provinces and the coverage position changed completely. Same person, same history, different formulary.

Spent three weeks on what turned out to be a quantity limit rather than a coverage question.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/search_before_post208 points·1 year ago

Cash pricing, which people skip because they assume coverage is the only route.

Prices at the counter vary between pharmacies, sometimes substantially, in the same city. Members here have found spreads worth a real amount per month by ringing four places and asking for the cash price of a specific presentation.

That does not make coverage unimportant. It does mean that while an authorization is in process — which can take weeks — knowing the actual cash spread is worth half an hour of phone calls. Post what you find with the province and the month; the comparison threads here work for exactly the same reason the UK pricing tracker does.

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u/formulary_fighterappeals114 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. A rejected claim at the counter is not a denied authorization and the next step differs.

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u/erez_baptista32 points·1 year ago

Special authorization is a documented exception process with published criteria. Applications that answer those criteria explicitly, point by point, fare better than general clinical narratives.

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u/niels_norgaard50 points·1 year ago

formulary decisions are provincial, so the province is the first fact

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics146 points·1 year ago

special authorization forms are published, read them before applying

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u/omar_eriksen-12 points·1 year ago

Provincial plan, employer plan, or paying cash?

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u/adaeze_batista1 point·1 year ago·edited

Have you asked the pharmacist to check?

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u/vikram_asante1 point·1 year ago

Yes. Approval and coverage are separate, and this board conflates them in about half its threads.

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u/aurel_lindqvist1 point·1 year ago

quantity limits are as common a barrier as coverage itself

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u/lane_watcherMOD1 point·1 year ago

Plan and policy numbers redacted from the screenshot above.

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u/niels_norgaard1 point·1 year ago

Plan and policy numbers redacted from the screenshot above.

Agreed — write the application against the published criteria rather than around them.

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u/liv_dumitru47 points·1 year ago

the exception drug status route exists in several provinces

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u/first_pen_fearOP20 points·1 year ago

Have you seen the special authorization criteria for your province?

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u/formulary_fighterappeals0 points·1 year ago

Right, and the pharmacist can usually give a definite answer faster than a week of forum speculation.

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u/pavel_kravchenko1 point·1 year ago

Correction: that is regulatory approval, not coverage. They are separate decisions by separate bodies.

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u/camila_mensa1 point·1 year ago·edited

Small fix — that formulary position is another province’s and does not apply here.

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u/amara_haddad30 points·1 year ago

Quantity limits restrict how much may be dispensed in a period even where coverage exists. They are a distinct barrier and require a distinct request.

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u/nikhil_asante18 points·1 year ago·edited

Quantity limits restrict how much may be dispensed in a period even where coverage exists.

Disagreeing with this line: that is an employer plan process and the provincial one differs.

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u/nikhil_asante12 points·1 year ago

Which province?

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u/greta_perrin21 points·1 year ago

Confused a rejected claim with a denied authorization for a month and pursued entirely the wrong process.

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u/fasting_insulin_f25 points·1 year ago

say the province or the answers will be wrong

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u/noor_ivaturi22 points·1 year ago

employer plans have their own criteria and their own appeals

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u/hedda_aguirre11 points·1 year ago·edited

employer plans have their own criteria and their own appeals

noor_ivaturi is right that a rejected claim and a denied authorization are different animals.

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u/mei_cardoso8 points·1 year ago

Disagree — that is your province’s formulary position and it does not carry to another.

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u/paper_trail_paulavetting0 points·1 year ago

Push back: approval by the national regulator says nothing about whether any plan will pay.

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