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c/cryptopay·posted 4 months ago by u/milos_trevino

[Discussion] we are measuring confirmations at the wrong time and calling it noise

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Something I keep coming back to: we are measuring confirmations at the wrong time and calling it noise.

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

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u/bruno_dumitru-23 points·4 months ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

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u/vitamin_d_void1 point·4 months ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/milos_trevinoOP1 point·4 months ago

Correction: that address format is not the chain you named. Worth checking before anybody follows this.

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u/niels_lindqvist1 point·4 months ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction.

Disagreeing here: that is a network fee at a busy hour and it is not the supplier’s doing.

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u/sigrid_kaufmann22 points·4 months ago

send a test amount first if the total is large

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u/stablecoin_steve32 points·4 months ago

the memo field matters on the chains that use one

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u/kaia_cabrera26 points·4 months ago

Sent a test amount first on a large order. Cost me a fraction of a percent and I have done it every time since.

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u/milos_trevinoOP13 points·4 months ago

Which network, exactly?

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u/blunt_coldbox_202420 points·4 months ago

Did you send a test amount first?

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u/teodor_jansen15 points·4 months ago

Is the fee you are describing the network fee or something the supplier added?

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u/kaia_cabrera9 points·4 months ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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u/milan_chukwu3 points·4 months ago

the supplier cannot reverse it and neither can you

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u/ledger_modMOD12 points·4 months ago

Moved from the vendor board. Payment mechanics live here.

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u/neha_rahimi8 points·4 months ago

Disagree — a quote expiry is normal when a rate is being held. Pressure to decide immediately is a different thing.

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u/kian_ekstrom3 points·4 months ago

Agreed. Network first, address second, amount third, and in that order every time.

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u/freya_onwuka1 point·4 months ago

gas is not the supplier’s fee

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u/chidi_yilmaz0 points·4 months ago

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

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u/zeynep_zielinski1 point·4 months ago

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account.

Agreed — and the hash is the receipt. Nothing else is.

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u/milan_chukwu1 point·4 months ago

Yes — the same token symbol on two chains catches people constantly and it is unrecoverable.

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u/neha_rahimi1 point·4 months ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

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