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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/ledger_mod

[PSA] gas fees are not what most of this community thinks it is

PSA Clean Column ×6

Short public-service post: gas fees are not what most of this community thinks it is.

Sent a test amount first on a large order. Cost me a fraction of a percent and I have done it every time since.

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/chain_confirm_cMOD160 points·1 year ago

Left up. It has a hash, a chain and a timeline, which is what a payment report needs.

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u/reflux_report46 points·1 year ago

The one mistake that cannot be undone, and why it keeps happening.

The same token symbol exists on multiple chains. The wallet interface shows you the symbol prominently and the network in small type. Sending on the wrong chain to an address that looks perfectly valid usually means the funds are unrecoverable by either party.

The protection is procedural rather than technical: confirm the network in writing with the recipient before sending, verify the address format matches that network, and send a small test first. None of that requires understanding the chain — it requires treating the network field as the most important thing on the screen, which the interface design does not encourage.

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u/reverse_image_ron51 points·1 year ago

Left up.

chain_confirm_c is right about confirmations. "Sent" is not a status.

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u/tove_ogunleye129 points·1 year ago·edited

How many confirmations does it show?

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u/ledger_modOPmod · vetting73 points·1 year ago

Got a quote with a fifteen-minute expiry and assumed it was a pressure tactic. It was just a held rate.

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u/andres_dahlberg44 points·1 year ago

confirmations are the only status that means anything

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[deleted]31 points·1 year ago

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u/ledger_modOPmod · vetting52 points·1 year ago

Which network, exactly?

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u/zaid_dahlberg32 points·1 year ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/laila_almeida102 points·1 year ago

Nearly sent on the wrong network. The token symbol was identical and the address format was the only clue.

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u/enzo_ferrari30 points·1 year ago

Disagree — a quote expiry is normal when a rate is being held. Pressure to decide immediately is a different thing.

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u/hugo_pires60 points·1 year ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

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u/niels_lindqvist49 points·1 year ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves.

Adding the cheap insurance — test amount first on anything large.

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