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c/coa·posted 2 years ago by u/chidi_demir

[Question] COA — what am I missing here

Question Cold Box ×4 Clean Column ×2 Receipts ×2

COA — what am I missing here. I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

Ask what the stability statement was written against — temperature, light, and whether it was the lyophilised powder or the reconstituted solution. Those are three different claims.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/liv_nkemelu743 points·2 years ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/dario_vermeulen250 points·2 years ago·edited

Right, and net peptide content is where the counterion and the water go. Both numbers can be honest and very different.

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u/wrong_network_w431 points·2 years ago

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

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u/dead_space_doug182 points·2 years ago

Yes — and the reason to ask for the whole page is that the interesting parts are the ones people crop out to fit a screenshot.

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u/emeka_chowdhury277 points·2 years ago

area% is not mass%, and the difference is the whole game

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u/first_hundredMOD198 points·2 years ago

Your name and address edited out of the screenshot above. The batch details are untouched and should stay.

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u/honest_syringe24405 points·2 years ago

Asked HJ for the batch-specific certificate and had the full document — batch, date, method line naming the column — inside six hours. That is now my baseline for everybody.

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u/zeynep_zielinski143 points·2 years ago

Asked HJ for the batch-specific certificate and had the full document — batch, date, method line naming the column — inside six hours.

Disagree on this specific point. Two honest labs can resolve that impurity differently and report different numbers.

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u/anders_kuusela42 points·2 years ago

Cosigning. The batch identifier is load-bearing, and a certificate that cannot be tied to the vial in your hand is not about your vial.

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u/neha_erdogan281 points·2 years ago

Sent one vial to PeptideMeter and Medutest. 98.1% and a claimed 97.5%. Cost me more than the vial and I would do it again.

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u/chidi_demirOP0 points·2 years ago

Are the related substances itemised or is it a single total?

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How to read a certificate of analysis and what it does and does not tell you. Area% versus mass%, identity versus quantity, water content, related substances, acetate counterions, and the difference between a vendor-supplied COA and an independent test on the vial you actually received.

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