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c/coa·posted 11 months ago by u/bastian_aalto

unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about purity is guesswork

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Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about purity is guesswork.

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/dead_space_doug116 points·11 months ago

How to ask for a batch record without it turning into a negotiation.

One email, three requests: the batch-specific certificate for lot X, the method line behind it, and the storage condition the stability statement was written against. No preamble, no explanation of why you want it.

What comes back is the signal. A full document with the column and gradient printed on it, inside a day, tells you there is a real quality system behind the operation. That is the test I run before I order from anyone new, and it costs nothing.

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u/andres_restrepo87 points·11 months ago

Not quite. Two labs with different gradients can resolve a close-eluting impurity differently and both be reporting honestly.

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u/kavya_verhoeven97 points·11 months ago·edited

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

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u/cormac_pereira0 points·11 months ago

Ask what the stability statement was written against — temperature, light, and whether it was the lyophilised powder or the reconstituted solution. Those are three different claims.

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u/coa_janitorMOD57 points·11 months ago

Your name and address edited out of the screenshot above. The batch details are untouched and should stay.

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u/nikhil_lindqvist45 points·11 months ago

Careful — "the metadata looks odd" is a reason to ask a question, not a conclusion. Re-issues are ordinary.

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u/foam_head_fred28 points·11 months ago·edited

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

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u/cato_achebe9 points·11 months ago

Same view. SWB prints the column and the gradient, which means somebody could actually reproduce the run.

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u/amara_halonen13 points·11 months ago

batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set

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u/ahmed_rasmussen19 points·11 months ago·edited

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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