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c/cagrilintide·posted 2 years ago by u/incretin_ivy

23 months in and satiety is still the thing I get wrong

Lab The Quiet One ×5

Here it is: 23 months in and satiety is still the thing I get wrong. One person, one log, no control group, so read it accordingly.

The numbers the title promised, since a headline without them is worthless: 23 months. Everything below is context for those.

Reading the trial literature on this without misleading yourself.

Separate the monotherapy arms from the combination arms before you do anything else. They report different effect sizes and different tolerability, and almost every summary that circulates blends them.

Then read the tolerability tables rather than the headline. In combination work the interesting question is whether adding a second mechanism adds effect without adding proportionate side effects, and that question is answered in a table nobody quotes.

Finally, note the durations. Comparing a shorter readout here with a longer one from an established compound is not a comparison at all.

The honest state of the evidence on this board, since somebody should write it down.

Published clinical data exists and is genuinely interesting, particularly in combination. Independent purity data from members is thin — a handful of results across the whole site, against hundreds for the older molecules. Nothing containing this compound is approved as a standalone product, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

What follows practically: buy small if you buy at all, test what you get and post the result, and treat confident rankings against established compounds as the extrapolation they are. The board gets better as the log fills, and right now the log is nearly empty.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/ledger_modMOD2 points·2 years ago

Left up. Thin evidence base, honestly labelled, which is the standard here.

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u/nl_verzekering1 point·2 years ago

That result is preclinical. Worth flagging, since the thread has been reading it as human data.

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u/nadia_fonseca1 point·2 years ago

Which trial and which readout?

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