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c/survodutide·posted 9 months ago by u/whois_wanda

hepatic fat: the version I wish someone had shown me in week 1

Trial Data Sourced ×4

hepatic fat: the version I wish someone had shown me in week 1. Full detail below, and I have tried to keep the editorialising out of it.

Bought small because the evidence base is early. That is the only defensible position I could construct.

Asked here what the difference was between the imaging and biopsy endpoints and got a genuinely excellent answer.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD152 points·9 months ago

Left up. It reads the paper carefully and is explicit about the population.

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u/vikram_mbeki71 points·9 months ago

phase 2 in liver disease is a different evidence question from weight

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u/zeynep_ndiaye99 points·9 months ago

That figure is from the obesity programme, and this thread is about the hepatic one.

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u/diego_szabo33 points·9 months ago

phase 2 in liver disease is a different evidence question from weight

vikram_mbeki is right that biopsy and imaging endpoints are not interchangeable.

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u/chidi_demir96 points·9 months ago

Independent purity results for this compound are very sparse across the whole site, which means any impression about consistency is built on almost nothing.

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro55 points·9 months ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of steatohepatitis. Both are harder to achieve and to interpret than an imaging surrogate.

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u/isabela_nilsen33 points·9 months ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis wit

Disagreeing with this bit: that number comes from a different programme with a different population.

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