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c/orforglipron·submitted 1 months ago by u/neha_krastev

help me understand non-peptide, I have read the wiki twice

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Trying to get a straight answer on this: help me understand non-peptide, I have read the wiki twice. Went looking for independent testing on this and found essentially nothing, which was clarifying. Read both programme names carefully after mixing them up in a comment and being politely corrected. The…

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u/greta_nilsen126 points·1 months ago·edited

Because it is not a peptide, it is not subject to the same degradation pathways, does not require the absorption enhancers used for oral peptides, and can be formulated as a conventional tablet.

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u/graph_it_gary102 points·1 months ago

What is actually known, and what is being assumed.

Known: it is a small-molecule GLP-1 receptor agonist, dosed daily, with clinical programmes reporting in both obesity and type 2 diabetes. Its tolerability profile broadly resembles the class in the data published so far.

Assumed, frequently and confidently: that milligram comparisons with injectables mean something, that adherence is straightforwardly better because it is a tablet, that peptide purity discussions transfer to it. None of those hold. And nothing containing this compound is approved anywhere, which makes research-use-only material exactly that — not approved for human use.

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u/ines_lindqvist64 points·1 months ago

Milligram comparisons across molecule classes are meaningless. Potency is a property of the molecule at its receptor, not of the number on the label.

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u/emeka_delgado0 points·1 months ago

Milligram comparisons across molecule classes are meaningless.

Agreed, and it is why the oral peptide comparison keeps misleading people.

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u/marit_laurent1 point·1 months ago

oral and non-peptide is the whole engineering story

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u/neha_krastevOP38 points·1 months ago·edited

Daily rather than weekly sounds trivial until you think about what a missed dose means in each case.

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u/neha_krastevOP54 points·1 months ago·edited

Phase 2 or phase 3?

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u/emil_agyeman28 points·1 months ago

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.

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u/lukas_delgado23 points·1 months ago

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not.

Adding the standing caveat — unapproved, and research material is not for human use.

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