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c/coldchain·submitted 23 days ago by u/analog_alphabet

[Explainer] excursion tables, and why "it got warm" is not a data point

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excursion tables, and why "it got warm" is not a data point. It comes up every few weeks and the answer has not changed. Kept a vial at room temperature for eleven days by accident. Tested it out of guilt. It was fine. Wrote the reconstitution date on the vial for the first time last year. Have never once since…

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u/rohan_steiner15 points·22 days ago·edited

Once in solution, the relevant risks are hydrolysis, aggregation and, for some sequences, oxidation. Refrigeration slows all three; freezing a solution introduces a separate risk at the ice interface.

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u/priya_ogunleye9 points·22 days ago

Once in solution, the relevant risks are hydrolysis, aggregation and, for some sequences, oxidation.

Disagreeing with this line only: freezing a reconstituted vial is not a safe default.

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u/analog_alphabetOP6 points·22 days ago

Disagreeing with this line only: freezing a reconstituted vial is not a safe default.

Adding the practical version: ask which lines are held regionally before you order in July.

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u/bastian_ekstrom7 points·22 days ago

Push back: you cannot infer degradation from a temperature excursion alone. That is what testing is for.

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u/mod_cold_roomMOD8 points·21 days ago

Retitled: the original asserted degradation the post does not evidence.

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u/priya_guerrero3 points·21 days ago

Lyophilisation removes the water that drives most degradation pathways. That is why the dry cake is comparatively robust and the reconstituted solution is not.

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