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c/coldchain·submitted 6 months ago by u/zeynep_ndiaye

excursion — 20 things I got wrong before I got it right

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Something I keep coming back to: excursion — 20 things I got wrong before I got it right. A stability statement is only meaningful with its conditions attached: temperature, duration, light exposure, and whether it covers powder or solution. Ask which. Regional stock changes the question rather than answering it:…

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u/emeka_delgado214 points·6 months ago·edited

Gel packs are designed for a duty cycle. A liquid pack at the end of a longer-than-expected transit is a pack behaving as specified, not evidence of an excursion in the vial.

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u/cato_batista146 points·6 months ago

Moved everything off the fridge door after reading a thread here and my temperature log immediately got boring.

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u/isabela_nilsen119 points·6 months ago

the excursion that matters is the one after reconstitution

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u/zeynep_ndiayeOP67 points·6 months ago·edited

That is the ambient temperature at the destination, not the temperature inside the box. The logger measures the second one.

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[deleted]87 points·6 months ago

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u/cesar_teixeira-21 points·6 months ago

a logger costs less than a vial and answers the question permanently

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u/bastian_ekstrom1 point·6 months ago·edited

a logger costs less than a vial and answers the question permanently

cesar_teixeira is right that the pack failing is not the material failing. Two separate claims.

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u/anjali_tamm1 point·6 months ago

fridge, not freezer, once it is in solution

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