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c/coldchain·posted 1 year ago by u/kian_solberg

three years of cold chain threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

Discussion Cold Box ×3 Clean Column ×1

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: three years of cold chain threads, summarised so you do not have to read them.

A transit temperature logger records a distribution, and time above a threshold matters as much as peak temperature. That is the argument for logging rather than guessing.

Gel packs are designed for a duty cycle. A liquid pack at the end of a longer-than-expected transit is a pack behaving as specified, not evidence of an excursion in the vial.

A stability statement is only meaningful with its conditions attached: temperature, duration, light exposure, and whether it covers powder or solution. Ask which.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/nils_ferreira-19 points·1 year ago

You cannot infer potency from a temperature record. The record tells you what happened to the box; only a test tells you what happened to the material.

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u/priya_weiss272 points·1 year ago

Once in solution, the relevant risks are hydrolysis, aggregation and, for some sequences, oxidation. Refrigeration slows all three; freezing a solution introduces a separate risk at the ice interface.

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u/kian_solbergOP395 points·1 year ago

That is the ambient temperature at the destination, not the temperature inside the box. The logger measures the second one.

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u/salma_vasquez221 points·1 year ago·edited

Lyophilisation removes the water that drives most degradation pathways. That is why the dry cake is comparatively robust and the reconstituted solution is not.

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u/bence_ibarra135 points·1 year ago

Lyophilisation removes the water that drives most degradation pathways.

Disagreeing with this line only: freezing a reconstituted vial is not a safe default.

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u/kofi_ferreira174 points·1 year ago

Regional stock changes the question rather than answering it: shorter lanes mean less exposure and fewer variables, which is why the warehouse question is worth asking before ordering in summer.

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u/kian_solbergOP91 points·1 year ago

the door shelf is the worst place in the fridge

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u/nikhil_asante151 points·1 year ago

write the reconstitution date on the vial

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